Is the problem with Libertarianism some of the Libertarians themselves?

As readers of this blog may have noticed, I’m gradually moving towards espousing Libertarianism.

Many of the fundamental principles of this ‘third’ way appear to be very much in line with what I’ve looked for in other parties before but never found.

However, I’m having a real problem with Libertarians.

Not the whole crew, but a significant number who appear to be so far to the right and so vehement in their attacks on people with whom they disagree or dislike that I’m starting to wonder if I’m heading in the right political direction.

Libertarianism seems to be a broad ‘church’ and has left and right wing parameters like many political movements, but I’m not too happy with some of the extreme views I’m hearing from the right.

I really like Boatang and Demetriou’s blog . Go and check it out. It has impeccable Libertarian credentials.

Whilst it attacks sacred cows of every political hue fiercely and with language that is often more colourful than mine (yes, fuck me, really), it never descends to a personal level. It reasons forcefully but never hectors. It wants change, but always in a constructive manner.

Yes, someone might get called a ‘motherfucking cunt’ but never a ‘fat motherfucking cunt’ and although B&D are passionate about the causes they promote, I’ve never heard them wish physical pain and/or death on anyone they disagree with.

From that, then, you’ll have worked out what I’m finding hard to stomach about some Libertarian blogs – and which is becoming more apparent as, day after day, our troughing MPs are revealed as the corrupt shower of shits that many of us always thought they were but could rarely prove.

Yes, I’d like those the troughers sorted out and I’ve written how I’d like to see it done here.

Yes, our political system stinks. It’s not working for the benefit of the average law-abiding, tax-paying citizen and it’s allowing us to be robbed blind to pay for the shortcomings of others.

Yes, there’s total disregard for privacy and personal freedom and our views and opinions are disregarded by a political class that has zero accountability.

Yes, I’ve made jokes about stringing a few of the porcine buggers up, but I’d never do it and neither do I want to see it happen.

However, there seems to be a veritable deluge of bile and sheer naked hatred when comments are made on certain blogs.

Perhaps the people who comment are joking – although it doesn’t seem to be terribly amusing – and just venting.

However, I’m not always sure, as such comments are often made with such relish and glee.

Fair enough, some people might want our politicians dragged out of bed and lynched, but if that’s Libertarianism then, no thanks, I’d rather take the BN-fucking-P, as at least you’d get a fucking show trial.

I’ve also just read an extremely homophobic comment on a Libertarian blog that I frequent in which a well-known and heterosexual transvestite comedian who has come out in support of Labour has had all sorts of really very unpleasant homosexual abuse wished on him.

I’m pretty fucking broadminded and it’s hard to come up with much that really repulses me, but whoever made these comments came very close.

Yes, I’ve wished some buttfucking on a few people, but only when I thought they deserved it because of what they did, not what they were.

Big difference.

I don’t want some sort of moderate, vanilla debate.

However, I certainly don’t want immoderate opinions that seek to replace injustice with some sort of half-assed mob rule and kangaroo courts held before the ‘guilty’ are dragged off to the guillotine.

Maybe I’m reading too much into the words of some of the less moderate bloggers and the people who comment on their writing, so perhaps anyone reading this could put me straight.

I await enlightenment…

When blogs go too far…

I enjoy writing this blog.

I’ve done some freelance stuff for magazines and although it was great to get paid, I also enjoyed the whole process from research through to publication. Blogging to me is really no different – it just doesn’t pay.

I find the process of blogging helps me to focus on my own views on a variety of subjects – politics in particular. I think I’ve made it pretty clear that I’ll be a floating voter come the next General Election and I’d like to be able to make my mind up who gets my vote before I stand in a booth with a little black crayon in my hand.

The interactive nature of blogging is a big attraction too – I like the fact that people can comment on what I write and I can comment back and it’s all pretty rapid in nature.

I’m also appreciative of the fact that I can say more or less what I want and not have to pull any punches. I know that might mean that I sometimes express myself in ways some people might find offensive but that’s the way I’ve chosen to express myself.

I’d guess that very, very few bloggers don’t read other blogs. The blogosphere would probably resemble a DNA molecule if you could devise some sort of diagram of it. The proverb ‘birds of a feather flock together’ is just as true in blogging as it is in ‘real life’, although it’s sometimes not always the case.

As a blog reader I tend to find very little that upsets me – if I don’t like what I read I just go elsewhere.

However, what I do find hard to stomach is some of the very personal and spiteful remarks I read on what purport to be serious blogs.

Abuse is one thing – I’ve called people ‘greedy cunts’ on here, meant what I said and stand by such comments.

So, let’s look at abuse – how far it goes and how far it should go before it becomes counter-productive.

Geoff Hoon – claiming for three homes, transferred some property to his wife so she could be paid rent by him and denied originally owning that property.

My opinion of Hoon – a greedy, lying cunt.

Greedy – because he’s milking the system of MPs’ allowances for every last taxpayer penny.

Lying  – because he denied owning some property when he did own it.

Cunt – because what he’s done is what makes a cunt a cunt. I’m using the Australian definition here – ‘a despicable man’.

I think that’s fair comment – not to everyone’s tastes, maybe, but justifiable on many people’s terms.

If I then went on to say, ‘Hoon is a lanky bastard with a stupid-looking expression on his ugly face all the time’, that’s starting to venture into the personal. I can think of plenty of people like that who aren’t cunts in any way and, in my view, such remarks add nothing to a discussion or opinion apart from maybe relieving the tension of the person who made them.

To take it a stage further – and this is where I tend to recoil slightly when I read certain blogs and the comments on them – I could say, ‘Hoon is a greedy, lying, lanky, bastard cunt with a stupid-looking expression on his ugly face all the time and I’d like to get some piano wire, string him up from the nearest lamp post and stick redhot needles in his scrotum’ then I think that’s going a bit too far.

It introduces a vindictiveness that reduces a reasoned, admittedly abusive, comment to a level that demeans the commentator and debases the main points of his opinion.

I’m assuming, of course, that such malicious intentions aren’t meant to be taken seriously and that the writer is just venting but I’ve seen an awful lot of it recently concerning the recent McBride/Draper Smeargate business.

Yes, these people and those they acted for and even those who denied all knowledge of it behaved like cunts – I hope the cunts get everything that’s coming to them – they’re despicable people who have probably fucked up any chances of Labour getting in at the next General Election – Labour have fucked up the present and future prosperity of this country – our civil liberties have been crippled by their policies – there has to be a better way – they’re all greedy fucking pigs with their snouts in a seemingly bottomless trough of taxpayers’ money – etc – etc – etc.

I’m not arguing here about any of this.

But what I really don’t like is the sheer bile that’s spewing out all over the Blogosphere. It’s not going to achieve anything and it just makes the person who spews it look hysterical.

Yes, I can do what I suggest to people who don’t like something and I can just ignore it and go elsewhere, but then I ignore the venting blogger’s opinions which is not, I suspect, what the  blogger ultimately intends.

In short – Brown, Smith, Hoon, Darling, etc, et-fucking-cetera are all a shower of cunts who should be out on their ears before next year is through. They’re devious, conniving, greedy, power-mad fuckers who aren’t fit to shovel shit, but if they’re gone, that’ll do me.

That’s what matters – not some masochistic wet-dream rant involving a level of physical torture that makes the Spanish Inquisition look like a Buck House garden party…